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the moops

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Say what?

I watch a fuckton of basketball, and yes, there are about 50 moving picks a game.

I do not remember a moving pick in which the defender got up, led his shoulder into the defender's midsection, and then stood up flipping the defender over his back. That play has no relationship to a moving screen in any sense of the word. The only reason it wasn't a hip check is because it was a shoulder check instead.
He was on the ground and got up the same moment he picked Smart. Yes, it should have been a foul. But also yes, there are tons of moving picks like that in end of game situations, and Draymond knows that they rarely if ever call a foul in that situation
 

Deathofthebambino

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He was on the ground and got up the same moment he picked Smart. Yes, it should have been a foul. But also yes, there are tons of moving picks like that in end of game situations, and Draymond knows that they rarely if ever call a foul in that situation
The bolded is where you're losing everybody.

We all agree there are "tons of moving picks in end of game situations." We disagree that there are tons of moving picks "like that."

But how about this, find me one example of another player flipping a defender over his shoulder on a moving pick in any situation.

Here's a video of some of the worst screens you'll see, moving or otherwise, nobody gets flipped over the screener's shoulder. Just because it's end of game doesn't mean the sport turns into rugby.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceVET2QJrCE
 

oumbi

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yes, moving picks are normal basketball plays. They should be called fouls, but it is something we see dozens of times a game. And in last second plays, there are moving screens like the one above all the damn time.

Draymond has a million worse plays than this one. You could find clips of just about every guy in the league doing something like this
Would you please provide a few of those videos of "just about every guy" throwing a block like that one? Really, I would like to see some support for your statement.
 

lars10

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yes, moving picks are normal basketball plays. They should be called fouls, but it is something we see dozens of times a game. And in last second plays, there are moving screens like the one above all the damn time.

Draymond has a million worse plays than this one. You could find clips of just about every guy in the league doing something like this
C’mon.. we all watch basketball.. that second pick is nowhere close to commonplace. He comes off the ground and lifts the defender off his feet like a full on fullback. He’s done worse.. but why does that matter?

edit: or what a couple others said