2024 NBA Draft
- Thread starter 128
- Start date
Agree with this. Folks seem to be bought in that Atlanta wants to move Trae before his contract value tanks any more than it already has, but picks in this draft are less valuable than usual especially to the team that already has the #1 pick.
Not gonna stop folks from wishcasting Muggsy & Manute v2.
I’ve been saying this for a while now, I’ve spent my usual (obsessive) amount of time watching tape of all these guys. I know there’s an all star in there, because there always is. But I’ll be damned if I can figure out who it’s going to be. Stephon Castle maybe? On another note Boston should be claiming IP rights to Jaylon Tyson.
LOL at @ JT
Of course. There's probably a few all stars in this draft. Like other bad drafts, they could be at 14, 27, and 42. Who the fuck knows?
Edit: just noticed that JT played at Cal also. Kinda has to happen, doesn't it?
View: https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790099198093726014
DaRon Holmes of Dayton went 18/25 in the three point shooting drill. I have seen at least one mock that had him going to the Celtics.
DaRon Holmes of Dayton went 18/25 in the three point shooting drill. I have seen at least one mock that had him going to the Celtics.
LOL
24 years ago that stat line resulted in 2nd team All CIF Division 4 Southern Section in Bronny's neck of the woods.
Bronny gets a VERY significant edge on D and dunking ability however....
I don't think you want to trade out of the 30th if you are the Celtics. You get a three year contract at just above minimum with rights after three years. With the second apron, I think the last pick becomes more valuable than 2nd round contract since you can't aggregate contracts anymore
It's consensus that the lottery picks in this draft are way below the talent level of previous years. But I've read less about the middle of the 1st round and onwards. Is it that the overall draft is weak, so a guy who'd go (say) 10th will now go 1st and a guy who'd go 20th will go at #10, and onwards through the draft? Or is it that the draft is flat, so while the lottery talent is down, if a team is drafting at #15 or #25 or #40 the talent available won't be much different than in previous years?
Yeah but Holmes is 6’8” and 3/4, according to his measurements at the NBA Combine, with a 7’1” wingspanBronny shot 19/25
I’ll compare it to 2001. There are a ton of roleplayers in this pool. The problem is that the roleplayer section of the draft starts at #1. We’re talking about Zacho Falledey as a first round pick and the two 6’2” Kentucky guards as lottery picks. It’s a terrible draft to be in the lottery. But there are enough roleplayers that Boston could legitimately turn one up at #54.
Agreed with what hob said. I'm inferring a lot from what analysts are saying overall. One thing about the various projections is that the top 40ish guys are all different across boards (except for the top 2 really). Like wildly different. #4, #12, #20 different. Some guys are projected late first on one board and mid second elsewhere. What's interesting though is that it's the same 40 guys or so across most boards, just with different rankings mostly.
It's a great year to look for low-cost role players and a terrible year to have a high lottery pick. Probably. And not just because there's no Wemby. I'd say that there isn’t anyone who would go top 5 most years. So you're right that everyone is sliding up somewhat. But as hob notes, it is deep in role players. And there's a couple of studs in there somewhere, but nobody knows who. 2001 is a good comp. Pau went 3, and Parker went 28. There were other guys in that draft who helped teams and no real studs (unless you love Joe Johnson). This draft could be deeper than that one, and also maybe not lol.
Joe Johnson was a legit all star at his height. If Danny Ferry hadn’t outsmarted himself (he was bragging about getting a washed up Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall for what JJ would have cost) and just signed Johnson to begin with there probably wouldn’t have been a post-LeBron era in Cleveland as they’d’ve won some titles. Also, forgotten in the Tony Parker story is that Boston promised #21 to two different players thinking only one would be available then. Only they both were. And they picked Joe Forte anyway. (The other guy was Gilbert Arenas who’d’ve had a completely different career arc playing for Jim O’Brien.)
I wanted Tony Parker and Gilbert Arenas in that draft badly. Honestly that was the first time that I ever remember being furious at a draft in any sport. Was 100% sure that we'd get one of them with #21.
I still hate Chris Wallace.
I was devastated by that draft. I wanted Jefferson, JJ, and Parker. As soon as I started reading the Kedrick Brown draft promise stuff, I knew we were f*cked. I later talked myself into Forte pick because Red made it but wasn’t that enthused. Was even less enthused when I went to the UMass-Boston summer league games and saw Forte crying after a particularly bad game to Bill Guthridge.
FWIW, Tankathon mock has Eddy going 30th to the Celtics. Can he be.a rich man’s Luke Kornet in the NBA? By ”rich man’s”, I mean a second string center.
I didn't dream of JJ dropping to us. Was pleasantly surprised when he did. Could have lived with the joke pick of Kedrick, if we took Joe and then Tony at 21. Even Joe and Gilbert at 21 would have been better. Pitino/Wallace probably would have still fucked it all up somehow, but horrible drafting feels so much worse.
I bet I still have my excel spreadsheet on a HD somewhere.
In 2017 I was obsessing over the draft because the Blazers had three picks and I thought it was their shot to put a title team around Dame. I had settled on wanting Anunoby, Jarrett Allen and Josh Hart or Jordan Bell, and we came away with Zach Collins and Caleb Swanigan. I was just devastated.
Yup. I was also interested in Troy Murphy despite my hatred of all things ND. Also would have been fine with Tinsley with the Forte pick because I liked his game in college. Funny thing was Pitino was literally on tv saying he expected us to take Parker.
Really have to wonder how many titles SA wins if they don’t luck out on Parker that late.
They probably would have closed the deal on Jason Kidd in 2003 and won a similar amount.
Good call. I forgot that they were seriously involved in the Kidd stuff back then.
My son fell in love with Purdue and Edey this March Madness, so I watched him a lot. The NBA player he reminds me of most is Chuck Nevitt. He is immobile, slow, and has limited offensive skills. He is also one of the worst pick-setters I've ever seen. Here's a highlights package you can dream on.
In other news, Danny is so smart. I assume he's trying to lure the Lakers into sending him something in return for the Jazz's pick.
Last edited:
I love this. Wherever Danny goes, he'll always be a Celtic to me. Even if this just pisses the Lakers off a little and doesn't amount to anything else, I can relate.
If Boston drafted Hibachi the Tony Delk trade likely never happens. And Boston would have been building around Pierce/Johnson/Arenas.
The Ricktator was gone by then.
I’m rooting for Bronny. Coming from privilege, and then being rocked by a life threatening health concern, but battling back through hard work to show out at the NBA Combine? Sign me up for that story. Spots 9-18 on the 30 NBA teams, including two ways, is around 300 players in total. Bronny will be one of those 300 next season, and probably would have been even without his father being an all time great, with the most sway over the league than any player ever (considering the Clutch Sports connection).
Coming out of HS, Bronny was an undersized guard with a good understanding of the game, a ton of athletic ability, and a penchant for hitting the big shot. I put zero stock in his freshman year, coming off injury on a guard heavy cluster fuck of a team. I’m not surprised by his measurements, his top of the draft numbers in jumping and agility, or his shooting prowess in drills. He wouldn’t be in the combine if he hadn’t done well in those things in the LeBron Lab already.
We shall see how he continues to play in scrimmages with his peers. Sons of of NBA players tend to be good NBA players because they grew up in an environment where they experienced the NBA, and have a superior understanding of what takes to play in the league. I expect Devin Carter to get drafted in the first round not just because he is more talented with more size and athletic ability than lots of his peers, but also because he’s the son of a long time NBA player who is the Heat’s development coach.
Coming out of HS, Bronny was an undersized guard with a good understanding of the game, a ton of athletic ability, and a penchant for hitting the big shot. I put zero stock in his freshman year, coming off injury on a guard heavy cluster fuck of a team. I’m not surprised by his measurements, his top of the draft numbers in jumping and agility, or his shooting prowess in drills. He wouldn’t be in the combine if he hadn’t done well in those things in the LeBron Lab already.
We shall see how he continues to play in scrimmages with his peers. Sons of of NBA players tend to be good NBA players because they grew up in an environment where they experienced the NBA, and have a superior understanding of what takes to play in the league. I expect Devin Carter to get drafted in the first round not just because he is more talented with more size and athletic ability than lots of his peers, but also because he’s the son of a long time NBA player who is the Heat’s development coach.
Deuce should be the clear-cut #1 overall when he graduates high school. Kid seems like he's 5 ft tall already!
But more seriously, I'm down on a Bronny gamble after he name dropped both Jrue and DW as guys to learn from. If he's willing to put in the work, those are great role models.