#1 Florida State vs. #2 Auburn - The Final BCS Championship Game Thread
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Ed Hillel said:
True, it's 2-1 at this point. But Jameis is getting started at a younger age. If his health holds up, he can pass Big Ben in a few short years.
This game came down to neither side knowing how to tackle. Florida State couldn't wrap up Mason on his TD run, and Auburn couldn't tackle the FSU reciever on the long passing play to put them within striking distance. I don't know if it has to do with the new tackling rules, but that was a pretty fundementally poor performance from what are supposed to be the two best teams in the country.
Is there like a mandate that stuffy middle aged white men must have that exact kind of baldness?
People can say what they want, but that was honestly a fantastic ending to what was, IMO, one of the best college football seasons, and particularly Bowl seasons, in history. It felt like one great game after another after another every single week. And I think the playoffs could potentially make it even better.
Now onto the NFL playoffs, which haven't started off too bad either. Man, I love this sport so much.
Now onto the NFL playoffs, which haven't started off too bad either. Man, I love this sport so much.
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One last thing - I caught FSU at Even money early in the game for $2K. So that should make some of you feel better
I can never truly trust somebody ever again.
One last thing - I caught FSU at Even money early in the game for $2K. So that should make some of you feel better
I can never truly trust somebody ever again.
I'm no fan of Winston, but imagine being a sophomore in college (I know he is a red-shirt freshmen) and winning the national championship on a last minute TD pass that you threw in front of tens of millions of people, and then get a microphone shoved in your face right after and being asked to put it into words. Most people would not have a great articulate display, right? I can forgive him for making zero sense.
Ouch, I guess we know what MSNBC will be going wall to wall with Tommorow.WayBackVazquez said:
I call bullshit on that guy hedging a 2k bet on FSU. He's covering his bases. That dude's a fucking moron.
Yeah, thank Jehosephat I don't tweet.Luis Taint said:
It's a fascinating and impossibly loaded question to debate.
But this is a "college" football game, right?
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Yeah Jeets said:
I'd just like to go back and give this post some love.
They nearly did, Jeets. They nearly did.
Just drove back from Auburn (wanted to be in the same home city as one of my teams for once when they won, oops), but since I posted earlier in the thread, I feel compelled to post at the end.
You joke, but I'm still fucking pissed about Wilhite. Not because he sucked with the Patriots, because HE ALREADY SUCKED AT AUBURN. The Patriots get two Auburn players in the last decade, and one is good (Heath Evans) at something (FB) that is mostly irrelevant in the NFL now, then gets a 12th-man on the field penalty in the AFC Title game, and the other is raging incompetent Jonathan Wilhite. I'm not even sure whether he has one l or 2 in his name, but you know what? He doesn't deserve my time spent looking it up. Can Belichick just get one of the actual RBs, just once?
He gets a lifetime pass after the Iron Bowl. Lifetime. Pass.
Nope. Just one more data point pointing towards those that believe in miracles, curses, prayers, or horseshoes are superstitious ninnies. Or that my horseshoe was 2013-specific. Whichever.
This is what I was screaming. It was a completely legit flag (unlike the ticky-tack holding call that negated a 3rd-and-long conversion on Auburn's 1st 2nd half drive, and was a huge momentum changer), but just a dumb place for one.
Play of the game. Even worse than the kickoff return, where an injury combined with a player being horrifically out of his lane at a key moment. I thought Herbstreit and Musberger did a good job of pointing out that an uninjured player being way out of his lane was a big factor as well, but the "let's tackle each other 2 yards behind where the WR actually is" move on that play was what opened the way for the PI and eventual loss.
Honestly, there were so many non calls going both ways in this game, I thought the refs were completely blind. FSU got away with holds that only go unnoticed against Chandler Jones in the NFL, while Auburn lived quite liberally with a few blatant holds (less than FSU, but still at least 3 that I counted), the horsecollar, and a few defensive holding/PI calls that went unflagged. Both sides had a couple of near-late hits along the sideline, as well. Aside from the one holding call against Auburn early in the 3rd quarter, the refs were remarkably consistent in letting the players play beyond what I think was reasonable. Calls like the post-TD taunting (I think it was a mimic of FSU's gun firing thing that Winston did with the kid in the pregame) and the final PI on Auburn have to be called in those situations regardless of how much the refs are or are not throwing flags in other situations, lest there be bullshit like the Patriots-Panthers endgame. There were enough made plays and/or blown plays after the only call that really tweaked me that I won't lose any sleep over it.
At the risk of paraphrasing noted asshole Wade Boggs after the 1990 sweep in Oakland, I can't really be bitter about the result of this game after such a ridiculously unexpected and special Auburn season. Mason's beastly run at the end had me believing that Auburn was going to win again, but the 50-yard DERP tackle undid it a few moments later. Such is college football. War Eagle anyway.
twibnotes said:
You joke, but I'm still fucking pissed about Wilhite. Not because he sucked with the Patriots, because HE ALREADY SUCKED AT AUBURN. The Patriots get two Auburn players in the last decade, and one is good (Heath Evans) at something (FB) that is mostly irrelevant in the NFL now, then gets a 12th-man on the field penalty in the AFC Title game, and the other is raging incompetent Jonathan Wilhite. I'm not even sure whether he has one l or 2 in his name, but you know what? He doesn't deserve my time spent looking it up. Can Belichick just get one of the actual RBs, just once?
Dogman2 said:
He gets a lifetime pass after the Iron Bowl. Lifetime. Pass.
mascho said:
Nope. Just one more data point pointing towards those that believe in miracles, curses, prayers, or horseshoes are superstitious ninnies. Or that my horseshoe was 2013-specific. Whichever.
DannyHeep said:
This is what I was screaming. It was a completely legit flag (unlike the ticky-tack holding call that negated a 3rd-and-long conversion on Auburn's 1st 2nd half drive, and was a huge momentum changer), but just a dumb place for one.
BigSoxFan said:
Play of the game. Even worse than the kickoff return, where an injury combined with a player being horrifically out of his lane at a key moment. I thought Herbstreit and Musberger did a good job of pointing out that an uninjured player being way out of his lane was a big factor as well, but the "let's tackle each other 2 yards behind where the WR actually is" move on that play was what opened the way for the PI and eventual loss.
SemperFidelisSox said:
Honestly, there were so many non calls going both ways in this game, I thought the refs were completely blind. FSU got away with holds that only go unnoticed against Chandler Jones in the NFL, while Auburn lived quite liberally with a few blatant holds (less than FSU, but still at least 3 that I counted), the horsecollar, and a few defensive holding/PI calls that went unflagged. Both sides had a couple of near-late hits along the sideline, as well. Aside from the one holding call against Auburn early in the 3rd quarter, the refs were remarkably consistent in letting the players play beyond what I think was reasonable. Calls like the post-TD taunting (I think it was a mimic of FSU's gun firing thing that Winston did with the kid in the pregame) and the final PI on Auburn have to be called in those situations regardless of how much the refs are or are not throwing flags in other situations, lest there be bullshit like the Patriots-Panthers endgame. There were enough made plays and/or blown plays after the only call that really tweaked me that I won't lose any sleep over it.
At the risk of paraphrasing noted asshole Wade Boggs after the 1990 sweep in Oakland, I can't really be bitter about the result of this game after such a ridiculously unexpected and special Auburn season. Mason's beastly run at the end had me believing that Auburn was going to win again, but the 50-yard DERP tackle undid it a few moments later. Such is college football. War Eagle anyway.
Great game, instant classic. FWIW, JMDurron, I'm still not over Pat Dye (note my avatar; you should know what I"m referring to), so I'm not sad Auburn lost. But I still feel for you…losing a tough game like that. Such is life as a sports fan I guess. Great end to the BCS era.
ivanvamp said:
So, I'm a northern transplant. I became aware of Auburn football when I started going there in 1999, at which point I indoctrinated my roommate into Red Sox-Yankees, while he indoctrinated me into Auburn-Alabama. It was basically a cultural exchange program (and the dynamic of the two rivalries is pretty similar), but it means my history's a bit light. I had to google what you are referring to. I think the thing about the ties (Syracuse sending them, then Dye signing them and auctioning them off for the Auburn scholarship fund) is pretty awesome. It's stupid that they let bowl games end in ties back then.
When I think of Syracuse, I actually only think of positive things, from the home-and-home series back in 2001 and 2002, despite the fact that Freeney and McNabb destroyed Auburn in 2001. I was at Auburn at the time, and I remember the Syracuse student paper writing a great article on the atmosphere in Auburn after the 2002 game, so there's always been a fairly warm regard for Syracuse from Auburn fans of my era.
I appreciate the sentiment in the 2nd half of your post. It's remarkable to me how not pissed off I was after the game ended. Frustrated and disappointed, sure, because Auburn again failed to play 4 quarters, and the special teams failure was something I had never seen coming, but I had nothing on anyone else I watched the game with. I'm thankful for the 2010 Auburn and 2013 Red Sox teams for making me significantly more mellow today than I would be otherwise.
JMDurron said:
I hear you. Winning makes losing not as horrible.
The Pat Dye thing was torture. SU was undefeated, and actually had a chance at the national title that year. Auburn already had one loss and was out of the national championship picture. They had a chance in the last second to play for the win, but instead Pat Dye cowardly went for the tie, which accomplished absolutely nothing for Auburn but which cost SU any chance at a national title. When called on it, his response was simply, If Syracuse wanted to win, they should have blocked the field goal. What an asshat kind of statement. I would much rather have had SU lose on a last-second TD by Auburn than to have a tie game.
This article from SI at the time really takes Dye to task, and rightfully so: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066916/
It was one of the most aggravating sports moments of my life, and my team didn't even lose. Dye deserved every ounce of crap he took for that weak decision.
But hey, I'm not still bitter… ;-)
Ivan, I drove about 1,500 miles in a Winebago with other Cuse students, some alums plus some randoms.
To watch a tie.
Had fun in Nola on New Years Eve though.
To watch a tie.
Had fun in Nola on New Years Eve though.
LeoCarrillo said:
Well yeah, NOLA does have some fun attractions. And my SU memories of the SuperDome aren't all bad - after all, SU won the hoops title in 2003 there.
PS - And I think it's cool that SU is one of just nine schools to have won a national championship in football and men's basketball. Here's the list: Florida, Maryland, Syracuse, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, California, Stanford, and UCLA. Hard to believe Notre Dame or Oklahoma isn't on that list.