4/29: Game 4@Miami

benhogan

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Right but the second time wasn’t his ankle though. That was calf or Achilles. He was fine after the ankle turn then the non-contact pull up happened.
looks like they are calling it tightness to the calf. Probably won't see him until the next series, no worries.

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Red Right Arm

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I wasn't watching live. Some twitter replays showed a rolled ankle, which wouldn't be too bad assuming no fracture. We would mostly likely be OK if he's out 10-14 days.

Obviously a fracture, high grade calf strain, or Achilles injury would be no bueno.

He seemed pretty upset which isn't a great sign, let's hope he didn't feel something pop or snap. On the bright side, he did make it off on his own without going down right?
He did walk off on his own power. He was pissed and limping but he gave daps to some kid on his way to the locker room.
 

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for whatever it’s worth, and i’m still skeptical, there’s almost no quantitative evidence a team impacts opponents 3p% at all.
Back in the hey day of the Syracuse 2-3 zone, SU always had an opponent 3pt FG% that was among the lowest in their conference. It was consistent for years. So is the notion that was just luck? I’m genuinely asking.
 

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What’s concerning to me is Porzingis’ reaction more than anything.
Maybe, I just took it for the general frustration of a guy who has had a ton of injuries, who finally had a clean season on by far the best team he's been on knowing he was hurt again.

I kind of think if it was an achilles he goes down, I can't remember ever seeing a guy pop and achilles and stay standing throughout. Could be, but seemed more frustration than... "my season is over"
 

Justthetippett

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This is a sincere question… when Miami goes unconscious from 3 I read a lot of “what can you do?” type comments. But now when they’re 3-16 they’ve been “held”.

So what is it? Do the Cs affect shooting, or is it all “make or miss”?
They missed several open ones, particularly in Q1. I do think the D has been better than G2 (not as good as G3).
 

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Back in the hey day of the Syracuse 2-3 zone, SU always had an opponent 3pt FG% that was among the lowest in their conference. It was consistent for years. So is the notion that was just luck? I’m genuinely asking.
i’m not positive this relationship is true in college as well but yes the theory is it’s basically luck
 

Cellar-Door

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So a note on KP that was mentioned, he missed time in Nov/Dec with a left calf strain, so hopefully this is just the same on the right.
 

JCizzle

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Hopefully he just scared himself. I don’t love the calf but if it’s just the calf they can survive until he’s ready.
He reacted pretty demonstratively earlier this year when he left against Dallas (?) in a game on the road I think. IIRC, he played later that game. Really hoping it's a similar thing in terms of it not being season ending.
 

radsoxfan

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If it's a clearly MRI positive calf strain (rather than some cramp/super mild thing), most of the data has a mid-point return to play as 21-28 days. This if of course taking all comers from mild grade 1 and bad grade 2 (usually they exclude grade 3 since those tend to be surgical or very long recoveries).

I guess we will have to wait and see. This team should (of course who knows what will happen) still make it to the ECF without KP.
 

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This is a sincere question… when Miami goes unconscious from 3 I read a lot of “what can you do?” type comments. But now when they’re 3-16 they’ve been “held”.

So what is it? Do the Cs affect shooting, or is it all “make or miss”?
Last year, mostly make or miss. Game 2 was a combo of no close outs and above average shooting despite the wide open looks. Game 3 was a bit of bad shooting and good close outs combined. I wasn’t able to watch the first half close enough tonight but at 3/16 it is at least a combination of bad shooting and good defense. Defense alone will never explain shooting that poorly.
 

osori

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for whatever it’s worth, and i’m still skeptical, there’s almost no quantitative evidence a team impacts opponents 3p% at all.
But there is quantitative evidence that a wide open 3p% is higher than contested 3p%
(https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/shots-closest-defender-10?PerMode=Totals&CloseDefDistRange=2-4+Feet+-+Tight
versus
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/shots-closest-defender-10?PerMode=Totals&CloseDefDistRange=6++Feet+-+Wide+Open)

(the sample size for 0~2 feet contested is too small)