Right, because either IND or TEN will have 10 wins.Pittsburgh has a tie, there's no tiebreaker to be had.
Baltimore is in control of its destiny but can still lose it all next week. They are entirely out if they lose and PIT wins.
Right, because either IND or TEN will have 10 wins.Pittsburgh has a tie, there's no tiebreaker to be had.
Baltimore is in control of its destiny but can still lose it all next week. They are entirely out if they lose and PIT wins.
Not if Pitt wins, Baltimore wins, and Indy-Titans tie! Three way 9-6-1 for the last spot.Pittsburgh has a tie, there's no tiebreaker to be had.
Baltimore is in control of its destiny but can still lose it all next week. They are entirely out if they lose and PIT wins.
Right, a tie here - esp since it will likely be the flexed game - would be wild.Not if Pitt wins, Baltimore wins, and Indy-Titans tie! Three way 9-6-1 for the last spot.
not true - but IND/TEN are not going to tie, so basically trueAnd last, can’t have both PIT and BAL make the playoffs — one of them wins the division, the other is out.
Hmm, I’ll need to think about this. I mean, I know I could look it up somewhere, but sometimes working it out yourself is fun... this scenario I think also requires a Baltimore tie, for both PIT and BAL to make it?not true - but IND/TEN are not going to tie, so basically true
Yes. Houston has clinched a playoff spot with Pitt’s loss but could still be the 6 with a loss and a non tie in Ind-TennIn the south, assuming IND - TEN doesn’t tie, would come down to division record if HOU loses, in which case the winner of IND - TEN would win the division.
That’s right. That’s a lot of looking stuff up!If IND/TEN tie wouldn't IND get the tiebreaker between them since they won the first matchup? Then it would come down to IND/PIT. Head-to-head doesn't apply, they'd be tied in conference record, then it would come down to record in common games (min of 4 common games) then strength of victory followed by strength of schedule.
Um, if Pats and Titans are division winners at 10-6 they can get the 4Can the Pats fall to 4th seed or is it 2/3 only?
If Pats lose and BAL and HOU win, we’re the 4 and HOU is the 2Can the Pats fall to 4th seed or is it 2/3 only?
Yes, patriots loss plus Baltimore and Houston win equals fourth. I don’t know the various scenarios of three slash four way ties if Houston ties for the division after losing.Can the Pats fall to 4th seed or is it 2/3 only?
Pats could fall to 4th with a loss and Ravens win (assuming Texans also win). Ravens would win tiebreaker based on conference record (8-4 vs 7-5)Can the Pats fall to 4th seed or is it 2/3 only?
Looks like Baltimore can’t get a wild card anymore - Baltimore wins or Steelers lose and they get the North.That's all the unlikely ones. The Ravens make the playoffs if they win out and one of a hundred other things go their way. They win the division if they win out and the Steelers lose 1 game, or they win 1 and the Steelers lose both.
If the Steelers win out, then the Ravens can't win the division. At that point, to get the #6 seed (AFCW has #5)...
They can win out (10-6) and least 1 HOU W - which, I guess, would mean Houston wins the AFCS and BAL owns tiebreakers over IND/TEN but not over HOU
If HOU loses out, then it becomes a super muddled mess because, presumably, Houston would end up losing a tiebreaker for the AFCS to either IND or TEN, and then we're talking about strength of victory between BAL & HOU, which is not settled at this point. So BAL is rooting, at that point, for both IND & TEN to lose at least one game (and they play each other in week 17).
If Baltimore only wins 1 game and the Steelers win at least 1 game (and assuming the Patriots win 1 game), then to get the #6 seed at 9-7...
they need at least 1 TEN L AND
at least 1 MIA L AND
TEN over IND
OR
at least 1 TEN L AND
at least 1 MIA L AND
NYG over IND AND
a meaningful majority of other things to go right, because we're talking about Strength of Victory, and they're trailing. Somehow, if DAL beats TB, they're pretty screwed, needing 7 specific other games to go right.
If Baltimore wins 0 games, they don't make the playoffs.
SamesiesI'd rather see Pittsburgh in the playoffs over Baltimore be ause they worry me much less, but I really want to see the Steelers miss the playoffs...
Quite the dilemma.
I'd be much more worried about phantom DPI calls against PIT than BAL. BAL is also much easier to game plan against on defense. NE could play man cover 1/0 80% of the game against BAL.I'd rather see Pittsburgh in the playoffs over Baltimore be ause they worry me much less, but I really want to see the Steelers miss the playoffs...
Quite the dilemma.
You are what your record says you are. Indy is good, anyway. Tennessee is a little iffier, their offense is laughable. Mariota is a calamity under center. But maybe Gabbert can get it done. Or maybe not.From a competitive standpoint — the potential to do damage in the playoffs — Pittsburgh being out while Indy/Tenn is in: is a joke.
But the system is the system.
Steelers have 2 wins against playoff teams: Pats and 1-1 vs Baltimore. Also lost to KC Saints and Chargers. 2-4 against playoff teams plus a loss to Denver and Oakland and a tie against the Browns. Big whoop if they can do damage.From a competitive standpoint — the potential to do damage in the playoffs — Pittsburgh being out while Indy/Tenn is in: is a joke.
But the system is the system.
I am not arguing the result should be different. You know going in that each game is precious. You know this at the beginning of the season.You are what your record says you are. Indy is good, anyway. Tennessee is a little iffier, their offense is laughable. Mariota is a calamity under center. But maybe Gabbert can get it done. Or maybe not.
Agreed, Tennessee has done it with mirrors and magic wands. They are like the Giants from a couple of years ago. Easy schedule, a couple of close wins and they squeak into the playoffs and then get destroyed.I am not arguing the result should be different. You know going in that each game is precious. You know this at the beginning of the season.
Pittsburgh would annihilate Tennessee on a neutral field.
Pitt seems to play down to the level of their competition, not unlike a lot of teams.I am not arguing the result should be different. You know going in that each game is precious. You know this at the beginning of the season.
Pittsburgh would annihilate Tennessee on a neutral field.
Yes. And the Pats got destroyed @Jax, Det and Tenn, and the last play @Mia will probably cost them the 1 seed.They lost in Oakland, that is pretty close to a neutral field no?
No, I think the Chargers win the 3rd tie-breaker vs. Pats. Best Pats can do is 2 seed.So we need to be Broncos and raiders fans next week?
Both of them win and we get the number 1 seed?
What about three way with the chargers and Texans?No, I think the Chargers win the 3rd tie-breaker vs. Pats. Best Pats can do is 2 seed.
No, the AFC West tiebreaker happens first because they are same division, so KC wins that, then we beat KC. So if KC and SD lose and we win, Pats are one seed.No, I think the Chargers win the 3rd tie-breaker vs. Pats. Best Pats can do is 2 seed.
Yes and if HOU is included in that grouping they would be the #2 seed with KC the #3 seed LAC #5 seed.NYT simulator says patriots get 1 seed if all three KC LAC NE are tied. I don’t know the math.
I’d like to have the payout on a Denver/Oakland/NE win parlay.No, the AFC West tiebreaker happens first because they are same division, so KC wins that, then we beat KC. So if KC and SD lose and we win, Pats are one seed.
NYT playoff scenario thingy disagrees and says NE gets #1 seed in this scenario.No, I think the Chargers win the 3rd tie-breaker vs. Pats. Best Pats can do is 2 seed.
The games NE have been gashed on the ground are mostly the games where they faced quality QBs and stayed with a lighter box. PIT/MN/GB all come to mind with MIA as an outlier.Baltimore is a nightmare matchup in the playoffs. Their biggest strength is running the ball and the Pats have had various games they've given up 8 yards a carry. No fucking thanks. I could see Jackson having a Kaepernick v Packers performance against the Pats.
Last year there was nothing meh about the Eagle's defense. The fact that the Pats gained so many yards against it is a testament to how freaking good they were last year and also the success BB has had against Schwartz in his career.
I think KC will run into problems eventually this year when they face a team that can beat their defense (an easy task) and slow down their offense a bit (not such an easy task). I would imagine they would have difficulties against the Rams, Chargers, and Seahawks. They might win 2/3 of those but I don't think KC runs the table. I'd also probably take more balanced NFC teams against them in the SB but that's looking too far out.
If I post enough times I’ll get one right eventually... SuperNomario though is a different story.They have played five road games. The defense has played like absolute trash in four of them (all except Buffalo) and the offense has played like absolute trash in four of them (all except Chicago). I would not mark down wins at NYJ and at MIA in ink, much less Pittsburgh.
EDIT: not to speak for dcm, who may have his own reasons.