The team nipped it in the bud. Cassidy essentially laughed it off saying he had no idea where the story originated (I think it was the Marchand joke) and he couldn’t recall McAvoy ever being late to anything.God I hope this McAvoy late thing isn't a thing, although it sounds like Neely has got a good clamp on it. The media milked Seguin getting benched in Winnipeg for oversleeping for months and months and shoot me in the head, even after Thornton went on the radio and explained that Winnipeg's odd 30 min difference screwed up Seguin's alarm-setting.
It might be time for a few pro-Charlie puff pieces from some team friendly media people before he gets sick of this crap and wants out at contract time. God I fucking hate the media in this town.The team nipped it in the bud. Cassidy essentially laughed it off saying he had no idea where the story originated (I think it was the Marchand joke) and he couldn’t recall McAvoy ever being late to anything.
That said, Haggs and KPD probably already have a “McAvoy’s a bad apple” column draft written for the next time Charlie has a bad game.
Yes and likely to allow him to play in the AHL All Star game.Cehlarik returned to Providence. Not sure why, to be honest. Is it just due to the time off? Keep him playing?
Concussions are dicey, but it seems he is close. Cassidy thinks Thursday is a possibility.Any timetable on Rask's concussion?
Well that's a relief, I suppose.Concussions are dicey, but it seems he is close. Cassidy thinks Thursday is a possibility.
In a dream world you include Backes and his bloated contract and hope they bite (even it includes making the 1st guaranteed).B’s getting linked to Panarin by just about everyone. What’s the highest price people would pay? I figure the Kovalchuk deal from years ago is the closest comparable. That was a 1st, Johnny Oduya, Nic Bergfors, Patrice Cormier. That’s got to be the template. Oduya was a 29 year old NHL D under contracts, Bergfors a rookie 4 years removed from being a 1st round draft pick, and Cormier a whack job of a prospect (2nd round pick 2 years prior). NJ eventually got Kovalchuk extended too.
I’m personally a little gun shy on trading for a rental, so before forking over a huge package, I’d want the ability to talk to his agent about an extension and get some idea about is willingness to sign long term in Boston. CBJ is in a weird spot. Their Athletic writer today (Potzline) posted an article where he thinks they would ideally like to get a top 6 forward, but that is an unlikely return from the Panarin buyers, so the would also likely accept futures and then flip some of those futures in a separate “buy” deal.
My thought on a deal would be Grzelyck, Donato or prospect of CBJ’s choosing, then maybe a Zboril/Senyshyn B prospect filler type and finally a conditional first round pick where the pick conveys if he signs an extension.
Seems like a lot, but also feels like that wouldn’t be enough.
It becomes a 15 team no trade after 7/1/19.With Backes, still befuddling that the B's continue to overpay various people AND still give them an NMC as well. The excessive salary should buyout the NMC.
I wouldn’t give up Donato to rent Panarin. Grzelcyk, Heinen, And a 2nd that becomes a 1st if he re-signs is as far as I’d go. And someone will likely beat that.B’s getting linked to Panarin by just about everyone. What’s the highest price people would pay? I figure the Kovalchuk deal from years ago is the closest comparable. That was a 1st, Johnny Oduya, Nic Bergfors, Patrice Cormier. That’s got to be the template. Oduya was a 29 year old NHL D under contracts, Bergfors a rookie 4 years removed from being a 1st round draft pick, and Cormier a whack job of a prospect (2nd round pick 2 years prior). NJ eventually got Kovalchuk extended too.
I’m personally a little gun shy on trading for a rental, so before forking over a huge package, I’d want the ability to talk to his agent about an extension and get some idea about is willingness to sign long term in Boston. CBJ is in a weird spot. Their Athletic writer today (Potzline) posted an article where he thinks they would ideally like to get a top 6 forward, but that is an unlikely return from the Panarin buyers, so the would also likely accept futures and then flip some of those futures in a separate “buy” deal.
My thought on a deal would be Grzelyck, Donato or prospect of CBJ’s choosing, then maybe a Zboril/Senyshyn B prospect filler type and finally a conditional first round pick where the pick conveys if he signs an extension.
Seems like a lot, but also feels like that wouldn’t be enough.
If Donato would close the deal, I think the B's would do it. I don't think they see him improving at all in the things he needs to improve in. I'd rather move him than Grzelcyk, who seems to get better by the month. (I get that the proposal is not either/or. I'd just hate to lose Grz.)I wouldn’t give up Donato to rent Panarin. Grzelcyk, Heinen, And a 2nd that becomes a 1st if he re-signs is as far as I’d go. And someone will likely beat that.
I like Grzelcyk as well, but he is what he is at this point. A 25 year old, undersized, 3rd pairing defenseman on a good team. They have plenty of those guys in the system with more upside. Donato may be a tool guy, but it’s a pretty important tool that they don’t have a lot of. I don’t want to trade a guy with that skill set for a rental.If Donato would close the deal, I think the B's would do it. I don't think they see him improving at all in the things he needs to improve in. I'd rather move him than Grzelcyk, who seems to get better by the month. (I get that the proposal is not either/or. I'd just hate to lose Grz.)
No matter how many times I say it, someone else thinks Gryz and Krug are comparable. Krug was a 40 point player at age 22. 50 point player at 25. Grzlcyk had 15 points at age 24 last year and slightly ahead of that this year. They’re not remotely comparable as players.I'd move Heinen, a 2nd that becomes a first if Panarin signs and Zboril or Senyshyn +. I really like Grz and see him as a potential Krug replacement if he leaves as a FA.
This is 100% accurate. Gryz is a fine player. He’s not nearly in the same offensive universe as Krug. Krug is a 60 point defenseman, with ok defensive ability.No matter how many times I say it, someone else thinks Gryz and Krug are comparable. Krug was a 40 point player at age 22. 50 point player at 25. Grzlcyk had 15 points at age 24 last year and slightly ahead of that this year. They’re not remotely comparable as players.
Grzlcyk is never making the pass Krug just made on Pasta’s goal.
It’s not.Neely and Sweeney have to figure out right now if this team is worth investing in with a move. The only problem is, all of the prospects that we were high on coming into the season have all dropped in value. I’m not even sure they could make a move for a Panarin right now.
This, exactly. I will just add that if Krug had the wheels and defensive game of Grzelcyk, along with his (Krug's) offense, I think he'd be a perennial All-Star.No matter how many times I say it, someone else thinks Gryz and Krug are comparable. Krug was a 40 point player at age 22. 50 point player at 25. Grzlcyk had 15 points at age 24 last year and slightly ahead of that this year. They’re not remotely comparable as players.
Grzlcyk is never making the pass Krug just made on Pasta’s goal.
It bums me out, but I'm inclined to agree. I think they're a very good team, and could knock off Toronto or a Metro team, but they aren't winning 16 games this spring.It’s not.
The Bruins played over their heads last year with a number of improbable comebacks. They have one line. Any team can catch playoff lightning in a bottle with a goalie that gets hot for a solid month and a half, but there’s no reason to believe that Rask is that goalie, especially in the playoffs, given his past five years or so of statistics. And Halak has turned into enough of a pumpkin that they’re not going to be able to spell Rask enough to try to make him something other than what he is in the playoffs, which I think may have been the hope.
The sunk cost of whatever the Bergeron/Chara window is doesn’t warrant making a real move to sacrifice the future for the marginal benefit now, even if the Bruins has the assets to pull such a trade off.
What is the plan then?It’s not.
The Bruins played over their heads last year with a number of improbable comebacks. They have one line. Any team can catch playoff lightning in a bottle with a goalie that gets hot for a solid month and a half, but there’s no reason to believe that Rask is that goalie, especially in the playoffs, given his past five years or so of statistics. And Halak has turned into enough of a pumpkin that they’re not going to be able to spell Rask enough to try to make him something other than what he is in the playoffs, which I think may have been the hope.
The sunk cost of whatever the Bergeron/Chara window is doesn’t warrant making a real move to sacrifice the future for the marginal benefit now, even if the Bruins has the assets to pull such a trade off.
Problem is no teams are going to trade good players on good contracts unless they are getting comparable assets back of which the B's don't have much to offer. No one is making a Seguin or Hamilton trade at the deadline. Those types of trades happen in the off-season because there are more buyers thus higher costs.Otherwise I’d be shopping around for players with term.
They're very different players, but Grz is really good. An absolute monster in the neutral zone.No matter how many times I say it, someone else thinks Gryz and Krug are comparable. Krug was a 40 point player at age 22. 50 point player at 25. Grzlcyk had 15 points at age 24 last year and slightly ahead of that this year. They’re not remotely comparable as players.
Grzlcyk is never making the pass Krug just made on Pasta’s goal.
I agree with all of this.They’ve got the foundation in place to make a run. They’ve got elite defense, top end goaltending, an elite top line an PP. If they can make the right additions, I think they can make a run. Tampa is a close to a super team as there is in the NHL, but I’d give the Bruins a fighting chance against anyone else.
They need depth scoring. It is not a secret. They knew they needed in the offseason. They tried to bring back Rick Nash. When that failed they pivoted to Ilya Kovalchuk. When that failed it was on to the Tavares Hail Mary. When that failed they pivoted to...John Moore and hoped the kids at forward could buy them time. The kids haven’t really taken a step forward or provided solutions, but the team is still in the thick of it despite the roster shortcomings and the injuries.
I’m leery of adding a rental. My worry is they send assets out for a rental, then find themselves in the same spot heading into next year. I would hope that If they can add a Panarin/Stone/Duchene they’d be able to extend the player. Otherwise I’d be shopping around for players with term.
The "Chara window" closed a long time ago. It's the Bergeron window that is closing soon that they need to worry aboutThe sunk cost of whatever the Bergeron/Chara window is doesn’t warrant making a real move to sacrifice the future for the marginal benefit now, even if the Bruins has the assets to pull such a trade off.
Yep, this is about where I fall. They should be looking to add and to make a run, but in no way do I want to give up a lot of pieces for a pure rental. Either look for a cheaper rental (Simmonds?) or get someone with term. Easier said than done of course.They’ve got the foundation in place to make a run. They’ve got elite defense, top end goaltending, an elite top line an PP. If they can make the right additions, I think they can make a run. Tampa is a close to a super team as there is in the NHL, but I’d give the Bruins a fighting chance against anyone else.
They need depth scoring. It is not a secret. They knew they needed in the offseason. They tried to bring back Rick Nash. When that failed they pivoted to Ilya Kovalchuk. When that failed it was on to the Tavares Hail Mary. When that failed they pivoted to...John Moore and hoped the kids at forward could buy them time. The kids haven’t really taken a step forward or provided solutions, but the team is still in the thick of it despite the roster shortcomings and the injuries.
I’m leery of adding a rental. My worry is they send assets out for a rental, then find themselves in the same spot heading into next year. I would hope that If they can add a Panarin/Stone/Duchene they’d be able to extend the player. Otherwise I’d be shopping around for players with term.
I was just responding to the idea that Grz could "replace" Krug. He has no shot to do that. Frankly I don't think McAvoy could replace what Krug brings, but there's at least a shot of that happening since he's so young. I think Grz is a good player and a useful piece to have, but his presence has zero impact on my opinion of whether they should keep Krug.They're very different players, but Grz is really good. An absolute monster in the neutral zone.
For example, that Krejci goal...Krug is elite in the offensive zone, one of the top few defensemen in the league creating chances there. TFP is correct, they don't have anyone who can replace that, not even close. He does give a lot of it back, but when deployed the way he is, with heave zone starts and PP usage, he's a pretty big net positive
It is steep. But it fills a giant hole in this year's team without creating another. (And, admittedly, I'm not real high on Donato).Fluto has a piece up on The Athletic which hypothesizes on the CBJ ask from the Bruins in a Panarin deal. The verdict was a 1st, high end prospect, lower tier prospect. He ended up spitting out 1st, Donato or Vaakanainen and Trent Frederic.
That is...steep. Especially for a rental.