I think the combine drills are fine. Their imperfectness makes them hard to quantify and separates the shit GMs from the non-shit ones.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/570004981497139201Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:UConn CB Byron Jones just broad jumped 12'3"....which is 8 inches more than Collins' insane jump from last year. Wtf.
Mr. Baseball said:
Surprising coming from a guy with a Syracuse avatar
Seriously though, as a UConn fan, dying to see how this guy does with a real QB
Infield Infidel said:https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/570004981497139201
A lot of guys just don't do the bench press though. Something like 15 OL this year skipped it.( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:There is also a training and discipline angle to the bench press. You know it's coming, it's relatively simple to prepare and train for. It's like guys that fail drug tests even when they know they are coming, they are a special time of stupid.
ivanvamp said:
Uh….then I guess 12 ft, 2 inches is no longer the world record, eh?
Super Nomario said:A lot of guys just don't do the bench press though. Something like 15 OL this year skipped it.
I think he's interesting too. I probably haven't seen as much of him as you have, but his route running does not seem great from what I have seen on youtube. It seems like he rounds off his route and doesn't change direction sharply. For example, look at these post routes from the 2013 Michigan game.ivanvamp said:A guy I want New England to draft is WR Geremy Davis from UConn. 6'3", almost 220 lbs. Runs about a 4.50, has huge hands, an incredible catch radius, is big, strong, athletic, and runs great routes, has terrific hands. He played for a very bad offense and his numbers reflected that. Probably could be had in the 6th or 7th round. Sharp kid, very, very hard worker, team captain. Apparently had a very good day yesterday at the combine.
ZMart100 said:I think he's interesting too. I probably haven't seen as much of him as you have, but his route running does not seem great from what I have seen on youtube. It seems like he rounds off his route and doesn't change direction sharply. For example, look at these post routes from the 2013 Michigan game.
Geremy Davis
Compare this to Brandon LaFell against the Bears. LaFell plants sharply and gives a slight shoulder fake to the outside.
Was he improved in 2014? What have you seen?
ZMart100 said:I think he's interesting too. I probably haven't seen as much of him as you have, but his route running does not seem great from what I have seen on youtube. It seems like he rounds off his route and doesn't change direction sharply. For example, look at these post routes from the 2013 Michigan game.
Geremy Davis
Compare this to Brandon LaFell against the Bears. LaFell plants sharply and gives a slight shoulder fake to the outside.
Was he improved in 2014? What have you seen?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000474257/article/deon-simon-draft-diary-20-surprise-belichick-meetingThere is a certain naivete that populates the NFL scouting combine, especially among unheralded prospects who aren't expected to be taken in the first round of the upcoming draft.
Many say this is why certain players make it. The doubt sticks with them longer. The initial lack of interest from other teams lingers. They never allow the initial rush to go away.
So imagine Deon Simon, a 6-4, 332-pound defensive tackle out of Northwestern State (La.), and one of Around The NFL's draft diary participants, entering the Patriots' meeting room at the combine.
He's certainly not a nobody, especially after finishing No. 1 among defensive line prospects in the bench press and third overall (35 reps), but still expects a position coach and maybe a scout at the meeting. Thankfully, his preparation has taught him to get ready for anything.
Simon takes over the story here:
I didn't exactly think Bill Belichick was going to be there. But when I walked in the door, he was sitting right behind the door and he stood up and he shook my hand.
It felt unreal, I mean, you always see him on television and I mean -- that's Bill Belichick! To have the opportunity to be in the same room with him and in the same presence, it was really exciting. I was just trying to hold my composure.
It was on Saturday night. He was asking me about my background, personal stuff, but in the back of my mind, all I'm thinking is, man, that's Bill Belichick.
There were a few people in there, Bill and six others from his staff. In most of my meetings, the technical questions were mostly the same. They would set up a base defense and ask me where to line up. They'd show me an under look, a 3-4 defense, a 4-3 defense, just trying to read the offense. They'd ask me to read the opposing offense -- 21 personnel, 10 personnel, the base fronts.
It was just an amazing experience, something I'm never going to forget
RedOctober3829 said:This is pretty cool: Connor Orr is doing a running diary on NFL.com and this edition is Patriots-related. Northwestern State DL Deon Simon met with the Patriots contingent at the combine and details the meeting.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000474257/article/deon-simon-draft-diary-20-surprise-belichick-meeting
MainerInExile said:
Cool story. As an aside, why on earth are they asking a defensive tackle how many ways you can fold a paperclip. That just seems bizarre. It's like a bad consulting interview.
I'm starting a series of film breakdowns on cornerbacks and decided to start with Jones after his crazy Combine: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/nfl-draft/2015/02/27/nfl-draft-profile-connecticut-cb-byron-jones/Infield Infidel said:https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/570004981497139201
Super Nomario said:I'm starting a series of film breakdowns on cornerbacks and decided to start with Jones after his crazy Combine: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/nfl-draft/2015/02/27/nfl-draft-profile-connecticut-cb-byron-jones/
ivanvamp said:
Great piece on Jones. He's very intriguing. Good overall football player. Team captain (I know BB loves those). Incredible, freakish athleticism. Good guy. I don't see his combine vaulting him into the first 2-3 rounds, but I'm sure it improved his standing enough to move up from his projected 7th round spot.
Late in the draft, I'd love for NE to pick him. Always room for talented athletes who are team captains.
There is no Rev said:
Like Brandon Spikes?
ivanvamp said:
Great piece on Jones. He's very intriguing. Good overall football player. Team captain (I know BB loves those). Incredible, freakish athleticism. Good guy. I don't see his combine vaulting him into the first 2-3 rounds, but I'm sure it improved his standing enough to move up from his projected 7th round spot.
Late in the draft, I'd love for NE to pick him. Always room for talented athletes who are team captains.
There is no Rev said:
Like Brandon Spikes?
PedroKsBambino said:
The fact he isn't a talented athlete by NFL standards is exactly why he isn't still on the team.
There is no Rev said:Right--the basic point is that a person can be a team captain and still be a colossal shithead to the point that athleticism might not make up for it.
I think you're missing it, actually, but to each their own.PedroKsBambino said:
OK, but a guy who isn't athletic enough to be a 3-down player at his position is an odd way to try and make the point, at best.