Only God Can Judge Judge
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You guys should have seen him playing catch with some kid in the stands last night, during the same game he hit two bombs and robbed another. He really can do it all.
And hit a third off the wall!
That catch was insane, up their with his best ever, he was way over the wall.
Amazing how the visual of Judge being a monster size guy is brought down a toe. You don't realize how important it is until you hurt one.
Judge says he is in pain just walking.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-aaron-judge-torn-toe-ligament-20230624-6n4sebsq7rexlm4ua5eo5j6jou-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-aaron-judge-torn-toe-ligament-20230624-6n4sebsq7rexlm4ua5eo5j6jou-story.html
Yup. Wish he Nelson Cruz’d that ball. Great catch but you can’t be slamming into walls at that size, especially in some random June game.
Definitely agree given the result, but I think the particular setup there just made it worse / somewhat unlucky, with the way the door opened making the ledge more prominent and put more pressure on his toe. Probably hard to make that mental calculation in a stadium you never play in while you're in the process of making a game-saving catch.
It just sucks, maybe MLB will figure out the lost revenue from a missed large-market MVP candidate season and see if its on par with the cost of injury-proofing that old ledge.
Probably, but honestly all season, since he signed the massive deal and was officially named captain, he was trying too hard to do everything he could to help the team win, on and off the field. The off the field stuff is a bit dangerous in its own way as a person can only deal with so much, and in baseball you really need to focus on your own game, but on the field, he was lucky he didn't get hurt before this as he made a bunch of 'no regard for his body' plays like that that he walked away from unscathed. Someone needs to pound into his head the concept of 'losing the battle but winning the war'.
Yes, it’s analogous to getting quarterbacks to slide or run out of bounds to avoid contact. But especially for guys like Judge or Josh Allen who became successful playing intensely and without lasting physical consequences, it’s tough to shift to that protective mindset.
So... are the Yankees sellers at the trading deadline? This team looks entirely different without Judge. I'm talking last place in the AL East with no chance at the Wild Card different.
Let’s not go there please. You can’t kill Dracula. Not with bleeping Billy McKinney and Jake Bauers still pulling nonsense. .
They haven't had Rodon all season and he should be back in a couple of weeks, and the schedule in the second half is weaker. The offense is a disaster right now though.
But I don't think they have much to sell if they wanted to. I'd be happy to discuss that but let's not do it in the Judge thread, thanks.
Fair enough. The loss of Judge is obviously huge. He's in scoring position when he's brushing his teeth in the morning.
Reminded me of the scene in "The Natural" where outfielder Bump Bailey dies running through the outfield wall.
As much as I enjoy the Yankees cutting huge checks to someone who isn't playing, I absolutely hate that it's Judge. Seems like a class act and definitely a huge part of MLB right now - similar to Ohtani. Neither is on my team, but I'm happy to see them succeed.
Yanks could pull a Spurs. The Spurs lose David Robinson to injury, basically tank afterward, and then get lucky and win the draft lottery and get Tim Duncan.
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I feel dirty quoting Jon Heyman but I choose to believe:
“ Word is Judge doesn’t like guesses when doctors apparently aren’t so precise, and only one Yankees person dared to provide an estimate. For what it’s worth (maybe little), that person guessed Judge could be back a week or two after the All-Star break.”
https://nypost.com/2023/06/25/aaron-judge-cant-make-any-promises-but-expects-yankees-return/
“ Word is Judge doesn’t like guesses when doctors apparently aren’t so precise, and only one Yankees person dared to provide an estimate. For what it’s worth (maybe little), that person guessed Judge could be back a week or two after the All-Star break.”
https://nypost.com/2023/06/25/aaron-judge-cant-make-any-promises-but-expects-yankees-return/
As the First Plebeian said of Mark Antony's eulogy in Julius Caesar, "Methinks there is much reason in his sayings."
The most anticipated BP matchup in a while will come before tomorrow’s game:
“ Aaron Judge will face rehabbing reliever Jonathan Loáisiga in a live batting practice on Sunday. It’ll be Judge’s first true live session against big-league pitching since he injured his right big toe on June 3. Assuming all goes well on Sunday, Judge will ramp up at the beginning of next week, positioning himself for a return from the IL either before the end of July or very early on in August.”
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/07/slumping-yankees-come-through-with-late-home-runs-to-beat-royals.html
“ Aaron Judge will face rehabbing reliever Jonathan Loáisiga in a live batting practice on Sunday. It’ll be Judge’s first true live session against big-league pitching since he injured his right big toe on June 3. Assuming all goes well on Sunday, Judge will ramp up at the beginning of next week, positioning himself for a return from the IL either before the end of July or very early on in August.”
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/07/slumping-yankees-come-through-with-late-home-runs-to-beat-royals.html
Joel Sherman: "Barring a last-second setback, The Yankees’ current plan is to activate Aaron Judge on Friday."
https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/aaron-judge-finally-returning-to-yankees-on-friday/
https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/aaron-judge-finally-returning-to-yankees-on-friday/
Yanks went 40-20 in 1963 when Mantle broke his left foot on the chain link fence in Baltimore. Maris moved over to center, an improvement over Mantle in speed and arm.
Mick famously returned as a pinch-hitter in the second game of a doubleheader against Baltimore. Not expecting to return yet, Mick was hungover when he went up to hit against lefty George Brunet. He hit the second pitch on a line over the LF fence to tie the game at 10. Brooks Robinson later recalled thinking “That’s why he is Mickey Mantle” as the limping star passed him at third base.
Only God could Judge Mantle.
Mick famously returned as a pinch-hitter in the second game of a doubleheader against Baltimore. Not expecting to return yet, Mick was hungover when he went up to hit against lefty George Brunet. He hit the second pitch on a line over the LF fence to tie the game at 10. Brooks Robinson later recalled thinking “That’s why he is Mickey Mantle” as the limping star passed him at third base.
Only God could Judge Mantle.
“Aaron Judge wins the Roberto Clemente Award, given to the player who best represents the game through extraordinary character, community involvement, philanthropy and contributions on and off the field.
He's the first Yankees player to win the award since Derek Jeter in 2009.”
View: https://twitter.com/theathleticmlb/status/1719108442055454952
He's the first Yankees player to win the award since Derek Jeter in 2009.”
View: https://twitter.com/theathleticmlb/status/1719108442055454952
Congratulations to Judge. It’s a great award (and, not to hijack the thread, seeing it mentioned brought back fond memories of Tim Wakefield).
I hate that I like a Yankee so much.
and so as to not pollute another thread, I have seen two US sports team logos in 5 days in New Zealand so far, other than in stores that sell sports clothing and in the mirror: Two Raiders shirts, and a good dozen NYY hats.
and so as to not pollute another thread, I have seen two US sports team logos in 5 days in New Zealand so far, other than in stores that sell sports clothing and in the mirror: Two Raiders shirts, and a good dozen NYY hats.
I like to see nice things happen to good guys. For example, I was happy he was able to go to a world series.
All MLB teams, 24 game spans with .500+ OBP, 10+ HR, and 20+ XBH, since 1995, there are 152 stretches (including overlaps) https://stathead.com/tiny/bVwjA, including 4 overlapping stretches from Judge in 2022 where he hit 5 doubles and 15-20 HRs with an OBP of .550 in July-August, and another stretch in 2017 where he hit 6 doubles and 14 HR. Other notables:
- The most XBH was Richard Hidalgo from 9/8/2000 - 4/5/2001 with 10 doubles, 3 triples and 14 HRs with a .602 OBP.
- The most stretches was obviously by Bonds, 49 such stretches (including overlaps) between 2000 and 2003.
- Highest OBP was .657 from Bonds, 9/7/2001 - 4/4/2002 with 5 doubles and 17 homers.
- Highest SLG was 1.313 from Bonds, 9/9/2001 - 4/6/2002 with 4 doubles and 18 homers.
- Most recent had been Marcel Ozuna, 8/12/23 - 9/7/23 with 11 doubles and 10 homers and .505 OBP.
- Only Sox was Mo Vaughn, 4/23/96-5/22/96 with 5 doubles, 1 triple, and 14 HR, and .517 OBP.
- No other Yankees
- Others with multiple non-overlapping stretches:
- Harper (April-June 2015 and August-September 2021)
- Berkman (June-July 2001 and April-May 2008)
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In Yankees History (https://stathead.com/tiny/2mRi8) there are 152 such stretches, 92 from Ruth (in the years 1920-1, 1923-4, 1927-28, 1930), 1 from Maris (1956), 1 from Mantle(1961), 6 from Judge, 44 from Gehrig (1927, 1930, 1934, 1936-7), 8 from DiMaggio (1937).
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In Red Sox History (https://stathead.com/tiny/OAI7M), there are 26 such stretches, 14 from Williams (all in 1954-55), 1 from Vaughn, 11 from Foxx (all in 1939).
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OK, but that was a lot of effort to research an overlapping but different stat. Anyway I just cut and pasted it from the YES stats guy on Twitter (James Smyth).
I mean, if someone posts a list of triple doubles in the NBA, responding with a list of guys whose assists and rebounds added up to 20 is kind of silly, but ok.Overlapping but BETTER because Homers are better than doubles
Actually the noteworthy part of this for Judge is the doubles, he never hit many before this stretch.
Judge has always hit HRs and singles and walked a ton, but his doubles the last few weeks are a new thing. His career high in doubles is just 28 and last year he had 16 all year, in 367 ABs. This year he has 17 already in 185 ABs.
He decided to trade some strikeouts for doubles while doing everything else at the same rate. Bold choice if it works
To ask the annoying talking head question - if he retired today would he have a shot at the HOF? 43 fWAR, 44 bWAR, so probably a little too low even with his peak... but I feel like his two top-2 MVP finishes, his ROY, and his owning the AL HR record increase his chances slightly.
If he finishes this season with 40+ HRs and doesn't fall off a cliff after it, I think it's pretty much a lock, even if he was never at this level again / too injured to be in MVP conversations again. Is that homerism?
To ask the annoying talking head question - if he retired today would he have a shot at the HOF? 43 fWAR, 44 bWAR, so probably a little too low even with his peak... but I feel like his two top-2 MVP finishes, his ROY, and his owning the AL HR record increase his chances slightly.
If he finishes this season with 40+ HRs and doesn't fall off a cliff after it, I think it's pretty much a lock, even if he was never at this level again / too injured to be in MVP conversations again. Is that homerism?
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if he accumulates 26.3 more bWAR while never having a season above 2.6, he’d have the same JAWS as the average HOF RF.
Babe Ruth is skewing that average. Also RF is slander, Judge is a born again CF'er. Until he's a 1B anyway.