2023 US Women's Open - Pebble Beach

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Bumping this. US Women's Open begins today at Pebble. Coverage is on USA beginning at 6:00pm eastern. Rose tee's off at 5:35 pm.

It's the first time the women have played Pebble for an Open.
 

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Bumping this. US Women's Open begins today at Pebble. Coverage is on USA beginning at 6:00pm eastern. Rose tee's off at 5:35 pm.

It's the first time the women have played Pebble for an Open.
playing with Lydia and Brooke too... that group will get a lot of coverage and rightfully so

Korda and Thompson tee off in less than 2 hours as well
 

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Right, but why is she important?
She appears to be a generational, potentially transcendent talent. She had a prolific amateur career, won just about everything including the USGA Women's Am, the Augsta National Women's Am and back to back individual NCAA titles. She was the first woman to ever win two NCAA individual titles let alone do it back to back. All told, she was the top ranked female amateur for a record number of weeks. She turned pro right after winning her 2nd NCAA title back in May and she became the first woman in like 75 years to win her professional debut. Her next start was the KPMG major at Baltusrol and she finished T8.

She went to Stanford so between that, her amateur record and immediate pro success and stardom there's been some (unfair) Tiger comparisons being made.

Edit: I did not know this but for more intrigue this week, according to her Wiki, she holds the women's course record at Pebble, -9, which she shot in the 2022 Carmel Cup.
 
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She appears to be a generational, potentially transcendent talent.
She's obviously extremely talented and had a huge college career but the hype feels strong. Lydia Ko had 14 wins and a pair majors before she turned 20. There are dozens of LPGA tour wins from under 20 players over the past decade (and 4 US Women's Open winners who were age 20 or under). The women players seem to pop up and peak young with the best already winning by the time they're 20 (and not competing in college). Again, obviously talented and winning in her first event is a great sign but she's not exactly in uncharted territory except for the fact she chose to go to college rather than jump onto the tour as young as possible. Are parts of her game just better than other players? Looking at her driving distance (257, limited sample) she's not particularly long for the modern LPGA tour.
 

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From what I've seen she doesn't have any particular skill that jumps off the page. It just appears to be that she is the complete package and everything is just really good.

It's kinda hard to nail down some of this because the women's game lacks the data the men have.
 

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From what I've seen she doesn't have any particular skill that jumps off the page. It just appears to be that she is the complete package and everything is just really good.

It's kinda hard to nail down some of this because the women's game lacks the data the men have.
Although the good news is that they'll have ShotTracker (or whatever it's called) this week, so there should be better data.
 

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Although the good news is that they'll have ShotTracker (or whatever it's called) this week, so there should be better data.
Shotlink. They will have the same level of data as the men this week with the slight exception that the baselines for strokes gained come from data sources that are not nearly as reliable as on the PGA TOUR.
 

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California. Duh.
I'll be there tomorrow and Saturday. Haven't been to the course since going to the Pro-Am about 20 years ago. Looking forward to it.
 

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I'll say it again. I'm really impressed with Lydia Ko after the disaster on 5 yesterday. Birdied the next hole and gritted out the remainder of that round, and is really about a total of 2 inches shy for 4 putts to carve some more off her current total.
 

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I'll say it again. I'm really impressed with Lydia Ko after the disaster on 5 yesterday. Gritted out the remainder of that round, and is really about a total of 2 inches shy for 4 putts to carve some more off her current total.
She is +5 on the 5th hole, -3 on the other 32 holes.

Rose has been stuck in neutral but is -1 for the day and +1 for the tournament.
 

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Looks like they're getting some periods of sun, and with the fairly higher breezes today the greens should start drying out and getting faster, as if they aren't already quick.
 

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It's funny. I have an online World Golf Tour (WGT) account that I play ALOT. Pebble Beach is one of the courses they include in their base package. I think I have played this course about 250 times. The game is quite accurate in its depiction of layout, etc. My, humble brag, average score is -5. I wish I could do that in real life,
 
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Yeah, but bear in mind that she holds the record single round women's score on this course: 61.
It was a 63 but, yes, she is still in this. Only 8 back of the leader who isn't an elite player and 6 shots back of the trailing pack. 68 or 67 tomorrow and she's in the mix for Sunday.

It's kind of how she played the KPMG. Didn't eject early with a 70-74 on Thursday-Friday then stepped on the gas with a 68 on Saturday and 67 on Sunday and was very much part of the mix.
 

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It was a 63 but, yes, she is still in this. Only 8 back of the leader who isn't an elite player and 6 shots back of the trailing pack. 68 or 67 tomorrow and she's in the mix for Sunday.

It's kind of how she played the KPMG. Didn't eject early with a 70-74 on Thursday-Friday then stepped on the gas with a 68 on Saturday and 67 on Sunday and was very much part of the mix.
Well, you know, the 1 and the 3 are SO close together and I have VERY fat fingers. :eyeroll: Thanks for recalibrating me.
 

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Have they announced the projected cut? With Tardy in at -7, right now seems like it would be +3. But the closest that have yet to start, Xiyu Janet Lin and Nasa Hotaoka, are at -4 and -3, respectively, so could conceivably drive the second round lowest score below -7.
 

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It's either my imagination or the course itself is really not playing that tough. The players this afternoon are just consistently hitting poor shots. So many unforced errors. And generally very poor to average putting.
 
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Humble brag...I was her walking scorer in the final round of the US Women's Open at Newport in 2006. And during the playoff round on Monday after she and Pat Hurst tied in regulation. The two were wonderful to accompany around the course. But probably my most memorable events from that tourney was escorting Natalie Gulbis, Michelle Wie, and Lorena Ochoa in the groups I was assigned to. What a great experience.
 

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I'm amazed at how many approach shots are winding up short.and leaving players to scramble for par. If I heard the announcers correctly, there are now only 7 players under par for the day.
 

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So many camera shots of the fairways shows divot clods lying all about. I thought the etiquette was to at least replace the divot clod and tamp it down.
 
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Thailand’s Natthakritta Vongtaveelap was disqualified after her caddy used a distance measuring device on multiple occasions over the first 2 rounds. The only 2 events where they are not allowed are the US Open and the Open. First use is a penalty. 2nd use is disqualification. Ouch.
 

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Humble brag...I was her walking scorer in the final round of the US Women's Open at Newport in 2006. And during the playoff round on Monday after she and Pat Hurst tied in regulation. The two were wonderful to accompany around the course. But probably my most memorable events from that tourney was escorting Natalie Gulbis, Michelle Wie, and Lorena Ochoa in the groups I was assigned to. What a great experience.
Thats really cool! Are you a member there? I've been lucky enough to play there a few times. What a beautiful place.
 

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Thailand’s Natthakritta Vongtaveelap was disqualified after her caddy used a distance measuring device on multiple occasions over the first 2 rounds. The only 2 events where they are not allowed are the US Open and the Open. First use is a penalty. 2nd use is disqualification. Ouch.
It’s very odd that the USGA and R&A, the two organizations responsible for making distance measuring devices legal before any local rules through their 2020 rules overhaul, run the only two high-level women’s events than ban DMDs. I feel bad for Vongtaveelap and hope it wasn’t caused by a language barrier.